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Post by teammtrsprts on Jan 6, 2010 15:35:24 GMT -8
I would like to hear from all the Superlate driver and owners regarding what tires you would like to run at LVMS in 2010?
970 with no cutting= 3 to 4 weekends of racing.
2040= one weekend and a practice night 2035/45= One night racing
I have been told that several driver have told LVMS they want the 2035/45 tires this year? At an addition cost of over $500 a Saturday to race? How many cars are we loosing?
I understand thats the 2035/45 tire is used at Irwindale but they pay better and have several double main events scheduled. They do not split the winnings for double main events!
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Post by bigd4 on Jan 7, 2010 0:57:38 GMT -8
2045 and well see some good racing with those real tiers
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Post by bigd4 on Jan 7, 2010 1:02:50 GMT -8
they give you less laps and less money it works out
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Post by topfive on Jan 7, 2010 8:26:17 GMT -8
They better stick with the 970's unless they want to run the feature event with 8 cars each week.
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Post by beaner on Jan 11, 2010 17:52:32 GMT -8
the SLM tire at Irwindale is the 3035 / 3045. The 970 will be better. More cars=better racing
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Post by puertorican on Jan 13, 2010 12:16:09 GMT -8
The 970 is a good tire and does save a bunch of money in the long run. The speeds are just as good really with the 970 so why change. Billy, As for cutting tires it is none of your business if someone want to cut there tires, they bought them they can do what they want. Its not illegal to do it. Sounds to me as if you dont know how or dont know where to get them done and thats why you dont want it to happen.
Also you can get more than one race out of a set of 2040's been there done that.
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Post by teammtrsprts on Jan 13, 2010 13:03:07 GMT -8
Puertorican,
Thank you for your input regarding tires. You need to read my post and then your again! You don't make sense?
As for cutting the 970 tires, there are two reason we do not cut tires.
1. Cost, it defeats the purpose of having a cheap tire then pay someone to cut them. They wear out twice as fast! 2. We didn't need to cut our tires to go fast. "We know how to set up our cars"!
Everyone who cut tires last year showed LVMS that you are willing to pay more! I hope you guys like the 3035 and 3045. That is what you are running next year! Be ready to buy tires every race at almost $600 a set!
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Post by beaner on Jan 13, 2010 18:40:16 GMT -8
So they are running the 3035/3045? I am going to assume that mike told you this??? Did he tell you when the rules and the schedule will be out too?
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Post by harold on Jan 13, 2010 21:31:00 GMT -8
what teams were cutting their tires? maybe billys car should have been on cut tires, i dont remember it going fast very often. i thought only barton was on cut tires. 3035/3045 will bring the cars closer together agian, on 970s the good cars were really good and the bad cars were really bad, poor racing in my opinion, always a runaway.
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Post by teammtrsprts on Jan 14, 2010 8:36:43 GMT -8
I was told the official rules and schedule will be on the LVMS website by this week.
Section 8,
I also have the Orange 25 Super that set fast time 3 nights in a roll and finished 2nd as a late at the Classic.
Thanks for paying attention.
As for cutting tires their were about 7 cars that were having them cut. Bray has a machine that cuts tires and several others where having them cut out of state.
Its nothing new, the legends also do it!
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Post by Buzzy on Jan 14, 2010 9:44:44 GMT -8
Here we go again with the one and only know-it-all -Billy Mitchell! OMG!
FYI - Their - refers to a person There - refers to a thing
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Post by dave on Jan 14, 2010 17:23:00 GMT -8
The term is commonly called "shaving" and is a standard practice for treaded tire road racing classes. It's usually about 10-15 bucks a tire and on some classes can mean better than .5 sec or better a lap depending on the tire. Pretty much any dealer that sells tires for SCCA or NASA classes can get 970s but shave them as well but that won't help the branded tire classes. It's not difficult to do. I wondered why they didn't run sticky tires in SLM but I don't run the class so I don't have an opinion.
Dave
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Post by puertorican on Jan 15, 2010 7:09:58 GMT -8
teammtrsprts,
Please explain how my post makes no sence. I said The 970 is a good tire and the racing is just as fast on them.
I also said that you can get more than one race out of a set of 2040's. This was in reference to you stating you can only get one race out of a set of 2040's.
Now getting back to shaving tires, if you have looked at a 970 on a shaving machine or a balancer you will see that it is not truly round so the shaving gets rid of the imperfection in the tire. The tire is now round and true with your wheel as well. All tires and all wheels have some amount of run out in them and this process get rid of that.You can still get 3-4 races out of the tire not that much rubber comes off.
Hope I cleared my post up for you.
P.S. I think the 970 is a good tire and should be used at the bullring.
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Post by teammtrsprts on Jan 15, 2010 9:23:16 GMT -8
puertorican, I agree that going away from the 970 tire is a big mistake! with todays economy people just cannot afford to buy tires. The racers I am speaking about are not just truing up the tires, they are putting camber into them. Unfortunately a couple drivers "the president" could not figure out the big Bar, soft spring set ups and are blaming the 970 tire. As for using the 2040, 3035 and 3035. Yes, I agree you can use them more than one week but they get hard as a rock! You will notice a big difference on grip because most of the solvent is gone from the tire. It would be really easy for LVMS to use a tread depth Gauge to keep people from cutting/cambering their tires. Then again that would mean they would have to tech something! Why have a rule book? Please remind me why I paying them all this money? Did anyone notice IRP "Toyota" is racing 8 double mains at twice the payouts! They actually weigh the cars!
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Post by dave on Jan 15, 2010 21:06:05 GMT -8
Bill how is tech going tell what was shaved and what has worn off? After you scrub them in you can't tell. To enforce that they'd have to have a tire parc ferme and I don't see that happening. I can't see how using shaving for camber could be as beneficial as tuning the suspension would be. Or using stagger.
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