CHARGER FUEL RULE

[vinny249]

Found out today at test and tune that chargers have to run the track fuel witch is VP 110. The cost per gallon is $9.00 If you do not run the track fuel you can be DQ.
MORE MONEY

[griffithsracing]

what if our cars wont run on that my crate motor wont run on that good nuts it likes 91 or 100 it losses 2 10ths with the good stuff

[dave]

Unless the track is having VP do special die colors for the fuel you should be able to run VP from other sources. Except for color they don't have the tools at the track to differentiate between VP and other like fuels. You'd have to send them to a lab for anything more. For example Sunoco Purple (110 octane unleaded) looks, specs and most importantly, performs similar to VP 110. I used to run a lot of VP C12 (and MS98) and the last small batch I bought was almost 15 bucks a gallon. The track price is the going retail price for small batch VP 110 (purple). VP traditionally costs more than 25-30% than most other fuels. If you shop around you might be able to find it in 55 gal drums for closer to $7 a gallon. I haven't found any unleaded 110 octane race gas for under $7 or $8 a gallon or any race gas under $6 a gallon or so.

Gary, higher octane fuel does not cause a hp loss in a low compression engine. The only way you would lose hp is if the fuel was otherwise contaminated, water, improperly stored, etc.

[goat roper]

How about just adding a little food coloring to what you get at the ARCO station? ;D

[a]

Or just look online for the same die that the track uses... it's cheap and comes in the rainbow of colors LVMS uses (purple, purple, purple with the occasional red).

[vinny249]

Gary your car will not lose horse power. The color of the fuel is blue or purple I think. VP fuel is keepin records of who is buying fuel from track.

[dave]

That's a drag. Hard to get by them keeping fuel logs. When I was doing national pro level karting they would add the tire and fuel bill into the entry. You had to buy at least 5-10 gallons of fuel and a couple of sets of tires for each event. For the road race stuff it was mostly use the fuel that met the specs, from the supplier of your choice. Some of those guys went to town, using that $35/gallon MR2 that's just nasty dangerous. With some of these single source tire and fuel rules I wish they'd just sack up and admit that they want the revenue from the sales rather than pretend it's to police the competition. Anyone who is a good tire and fuel cheater can do it regardless of where they get the tires or fuel. Personally I'd rather see entry fees go up a tad and let me choose my own suppliers even if it's spec tires and fuel. That's one of the things that I like about the Bombers, pump gas and street tires. Though I wouldn't mind if we could run a hard race tire that would last most of the season.

[puertorican]

You poor Ba$tards the track is f**k!N you at 9.00 a gallon. If you go to havasu and race VP110 is only 6.00 a gallon. Why can they get it cheaper and sell it cheaper? It might be worth calling Bill at Havasu and asking if you can by a 55 gallon drum from him. Just a thought.

[dave]

Six bucks a gallon for VP110 is cheap, probably right around cost in large batches. Locally here it's about 50 for a 5 gal pail from the local dealer. You can't get 100 unleaded or Rocket 110 leaded for that around here from Rebel. The track press release stated they were going to do a track specific die batch and Vinny said they were keeping a log. It's going to be hard to get around that. The guy who has the concession is Danny Topel. Any of the old dogs know who he is? Where they'll really sell the gas is the Inex cars. They all have to run MS93. VP is good but it's really expensive compared to other brands.

What's the fuel mileage on a Charger or SLM?

[goneracing]

There is no rule in the INEX rules that say legends must run MS93 and i think its a load of horse crap that the charger have to run VP110 but thats the bullring lets screw the driver and there teams.

[JJ Nunn]

Posted by puertorican on Today at 12:37pm
You poor Ba$tards the track is f**k!N you at 9.00 a gallon. If you go to havasu and race VP110 is only 6.00 a gallon. Why can they get it cheaper and sell it cheaper? It might be worth calling Bill at Havasu and asking if you can by a 55 gallon drum from him. Just a thought.

This is exactly why car counts continue to decrease at LVMS and car counts continue to grow at Havasu95speedway. The promoter Bill works with his local racers and doesn't look to screw them like LVMS does. LVMS has chased off alot of drivers and every year I see more and more of them showing up at Havasu.

Its a real shame how LVMS screws the local racer.

See you guys down there for the Night Of Destruction in May.

JJ Nunn
JC Motorsports

[dave]

Mar 18, 2010 16:27:38 GMT -8 goneracing said:

There is no rule in the INEX rules that say legends must run MS93 and i think its a load of horse crap that the charger have to run VP110 but thats the bullring lets screw the driver and there teams.

You must have missed the memo....

www.lvms.com/bullring/media/news/558822.html

"VP fuel will be sold at the Bullring by Danny Topel of Heads-Up Motorsports. Two specific blends of VP will be available. Drivers in the NASCAR Super Late Model and NASCAR Charger divisions will use VP 110 (blended with a unique color for Bullring competitors). Racers in the U.S. Legend Cars International Series (Legend Cars, Thunder Roadsters and Bandoleros) will use VP Motorsport 93, which is designed for lower-compression engines that require consistent, cost-effective controlled fuel.

Legends rules, section 29 (page 50)
"INEX reserves the right to require all cars use the same brand and designated grades of gasoline in a given event."

[goneracing]

sorry dave but no I did not get that memo and its steal a load of crap that the chargers and legends must ran that fuel.

[govmentchez]

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[goneracing]

Yeah I know and that is why we are going somewhere else.